September 19, 2005

Morning Grumble

Rachel Ann asks:

And your reaction is?

I really want to know. This is a kind of survey: could you all just copy the survey, fill it out and post it in the comments.

1.PETA--what is the first image that comes to your mind hearing the name?
2.How do you react emotionally?
3.Do you agree or disagree with PETA's overall message?
4.Do you agree or disagree with how PETA presents that message?
5.Are (or were) you a vegetarian?
6.Do you own any pets?
7.What rights over animals do you think humans should have?
8.Is experimentation on animals always wrong? Sometimes wrong? And if permissable when, what types of experiments, and how should they be conducted?
9. To what uses can we put animals? (Pets only, aide animals etc.)
10. Including PETA, what animal rights groups (if any) do you support?

My answers are in the extended entry. Drop by Rachel Ann's place and leave her your comments......

Ok here goes:
1. Utter disgust for their hypocrisy

2. I want to hurl or beat someone

3. I completely disagree with PETA. Not only do they practice hypocrisy, but they intentionally promulgate misleading or false information about nutrition and medicine.

4. I love the way PETA presents their message. It makes me laugh. It makes others give them less credibility. Drink Beer instead of milk? As if.

5. I have never been a vegetarian. I try to eat vegetables and vegetarian meals occasionally because I LIKE to, but I firmly believe that MEAT is a biological requirement for humans, especially young children.

6. I currently have a wonderful dog who is my baby, and in my life I have had dogs, rats, a lizard, a bird, bugs, etc. as pets.

7. I think that humans are the top of the food chain, and as such, we have the right to kill or be killed. We also have the right to use animals as we see fit. I doubt they'd give us such consideration. Ask a Bear or a Lion what they would do with US.

8. Animal experimentation is right as long as the animals are respected. As an animal researcher, it has been my experience that those of us who depend on animals for our answers are more respectful of them and caring about them than activists are. In my own personal experience, I have witnessed a PETA activist repeatedly refuse to euthanize a terribly sick animal because showing it off contributed to her personal political agenda. If they animals are not healthy and happy, the results come out wrong. It's the same for farming. Unhealthy animals don't produce edible food.

Without animal research, we would not have made ANY of the modern medical advances that allow people to live longer, more productive lives. To say that animal research is wasteful or produces meager results is completely false. Animal research has resulted in treatments for AIDS, Alzheimer's disease, and all types of cancers. Stem cell treatments were pioneered in rodent studies, and genetically manipulated mice have led to new understanding of MANY genetic diseases.

Hey PETA freaks, don't tell me you wouldn't take medicine or give it to your kids. You'd honestly let your grandma or your baby die because the medicine was tested on animals? Yeah, right.

I've seen you wear leather.

Additionally, animal testing has to be carried out on all consumer products (shampoo, soap, etc.). If it says "No Animal Testing" it just means that the manufacturer saved money by using an older, previously approved compound. There are FDA approved ranges of all ingredients in these products, and if you stay "in-bounds" so to speak, you don't need to do new animal testing to be approved for sale. So be aware, "No animal testing" really means "come on suckers, buy our products that were CHEAP to make".

Furthermore, we also have a responsibility to care for these animals. It's not fair to allow an animal to suffer. Researchers should make sure that their animals are healthy. On the other hand, it's also not OK to release a lab animal into the wild, as PETA would. How long do you think a WHITE rat with PINK eyes would last in an open field. Yeah. How about an albino rabbit? They're born blind.

9. Animals are food, friends, experimental objects, etc. Depends on the animal.

10. I support the ASPCA because they help care for abandoned animals.

Is that all? Good. Guess I can get off my soapbox now....

Posted by caltechgirl at September 19, 2005 08:55 AM | TrackBack

Beautiful screed! Brava!

Posted by: Doug McKay at September 19, 2005 09:32 AM

Thank you Caltech girl for posting this. I appreciate your participation.

For anyone who wants to post this survey on their blog, please either trackback to me or let me know you have done so by e-mail. I really want to know your answers.

Thank you in advnace,
Rachel Ann

Posted by: Rachel Ann at September 19, 2005 10:57 AM

You used to have rats? Good for you!

You should get some more, you know.

Posted by: Victor at September 19, 2005 11:23 AM

Good Grumble. Said better than anything I could have put down.

Posted by: vw bug at September 20, 2005 04:14 AM

Good answers! And so much nicer than calling PETA a bunch of asshats as I've had occasion to do.

Posted by: Da Goddess at September 21, 2005 12:13 AM